You are using an out of date browser. This enables us to make the structure, navigation, and content of our Website as user friendly as possible. A 3060 in a typical tractor application was rated (and well warrantied) to 80k gcw with the 285/800 limits which is almost 4 times what a 47RE etc. Yesterday we loaded up the motorhome and was backing up to hook up a trailer. This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. The unit wouldnt allow me to start the RV which is a 1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor. Sorry, but I do not share CAD data. I spend countless hours stuck in hotel rooms with my job and over research these things to kill time. Allison Transmission TES 295 Approved Fluids are approved for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. Thanks for the input so far! The fluid level was checked and was 3. The MD3060 came from a '98 motorhome/coach and it was attached to a P pump 5.9 Cummins 12v and as far as the harness it looks like one on the only inputs from the motor would be the TPS and a temp sender. Mobil Delvac 1 ATF is a fully synthetic fluid recommended by Allison Transmission, Inc. and approved against the Allison TES-295 and TES-468 Specifications. http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=6. It's pretty much "fill for life". This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! Gary. For a better experience please use a browser other than your current version of Internet Explorer. We use cookies to personalise content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyse our traffic. 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TRANNY Instant SHUDDER FIXX 2oz. 99 Truck Parts provides ground shipping to the United States (lower 48) and across Canada on most parts. I caught all the old fluid and it looked like a lot, so i measured it to see how much and it was damned close to 19 quarts, the listed "capacity" of this transmission. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Most MD3060 (at least the shallow sumps) take around 19 quarts for a chance (not initial fill). Now I will attempt to finish the job. Thanks to all and thank you BernieD for the 4 quart limit information, that almost had to be the answer, based on what I was seeing. First, it's a pretty simple procedure and their are a bunch of posts and YouTube videos on the topic. I have not done this before, but am going to do it in the next week. Reduced concern in top-off situations and excellent seal materials leakage control. Canada. Gary, you hit the nail on the head and it is good information for others who might attempt servicing their own transmission. Thanks Gary. Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC. If you have difficulty registering an account, logging in or need other account-related assistance, send us a message and well get back to you shortly. DESCRIPTION YEARS QTY PART NO ILL NO. compare not sure on reliability but as much as i hate autos it's nice to drive a solid auto like these trucks have. Is the dipstick wrong and the engine simply throws it out or burns it? In September of 1991, Allison Transmission Division launched the World Transmission product line with the release of the MD3060 automatic transmission into production. I think the HPCR Cummins has the CANbus mentioned above, but not 100%. These sources are the same for other fluids as well. I was just wondering if it was complicated or any tips that would make it easier? awsome trans in a med duty. Refunds will then be initiated to your credit card (or original method of payment). JavaScript is disabled. Regular fluid and filter maintenance is the simplest thing you can do to ensure the performance and durability of your Allison fully automatic transmission. Call to Purchase: 1-800-663-6460 Monday-Friday 8am-5pm PST, 12905 King George Blvd. 181 0 obj <>stream Some cookies are placed by third party services that appear on our pages. Thanks Gary. If a fluid change is necessary, then you should switch to TranSynd (or one of the other TES-295 approved fluids) and change the filters to the new Allison "High Capacity" filters. The Allison Owner's manual is not really clear on this point. Enhanced, long-term frictional properties. Allison TES 668 Approved Fluids are recommended for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. If so, view our frequently asked questions below to find the answer you are looking for. MD3060P is my model. Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More Airstream Trailer & Motorhome Owners Community, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1. Allison recommends TES 668 Approved Fluids to extend drain intervals and enhance transmission performance and durability in all operating environments. Our parts are either sandblasted or washed in our parts cleaner. Allison Approved synthetic fluids provide extended drain intervals and offer thermal and viscosity advantages over conventional petroleum based fluids, as well as other synthetic fluids. Allison recommends that customers using TES 468 Approved Fluid consider Allisons newest fluid spec, TES 668, for their next service. Thought you would be interested in this article/resource and could find it useful. Attn: Consumer Lubricants, Looking for the status of a rebate?Visit mobil.rebateresearch.com or call 1-866-895-9127. forum.dieselrvclub.org/index.php?topic=7495.0, Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 15_5 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/15.5 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. The PTO is rated at 485ft/lbs using one PTO and just over 600lb/ft for both. I only lost 1/2 gallon in the process? Returns will only be processed within 10 business days of the delivery of the item. This is a very common. But if so, why does the dipstick continue to show full after driving many, many miles? it does shift slow and when it shifts you KNOW it shifts. Now if only I could figure out why I drain 5.5 gallons of oil from my ISL engine, but have to put almost 7 gals back in to read "full". You must log in or register to reply here. General Service Tips. Mobil Delvac 1 ATF is recommended by ExxonMobil for use in modern high performance trucks, buses, utility vehicles, haulers, vans and other equipment requiring Allison TES-295 or MB-Approval 236.91 performance levels. As was said, these transmissions are HUGE! Thanks to all. bench buddy 4-piece brush set for valve bore polishing & more: bb100 by superior . This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! Versus conventional ATF fluids, the inherently high viscosity index and stability of Mobil Delvac 1 ATF protects against thermal breakdown at high operating temperatures, while still providing outstanding performance at sub-zero temperatures. [$EM 6{Rr!vP g L5:eF@0#$tN@ n @U~)xL^1NrZcy"&AoEe_ Canada. Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I am working on swapping a standard transmission in an international 4900 series over to an allison md3060. The fluid is designed to meet the demanding requirements of modern heavy-duty automatic transmissions. I measured the amount that I drained out (1/2 gal.) ~Gyn|YDpQ K>1\T3 ;Q' adn2@&7]OFTz0W Pmg5d;TZgb3HHk[FM5yZHElt>Qm9t\w_X!L Thanks everyone for all the replies. I caught all the old fluid and it looked like a lot, so i measured it to see how much and it was damned close to 19 quarts, the listed "capacity" of this transmission. HOWEVER, when I read the Owner's manual and other tech information on the internet, they all say that only about 10.5 quarts will drain during a filter change and that the rest of it is trapped in the valve body and torque converter. Allison 1000 Transmission Fluid Capacity You may get tired of hearing this, but there are three good sources for knowing your Allison transmission fluid capacity. If you use the truck strictly for work, this is a great trans to use. Maybe the drain plug you removed was on the torque converter? Transmission Model. 180 ILL NO. If you have any adivce you can give me on this I would appreciate it. 2023 "99" Truck Parts & Industrial Equipment Ltd. I thought that I would lose a lot more than that. Manufacturer Allison Model MD 3060 Condition Takeout Transmission Part Numbers Serial#: 6510078702, Part#: 29514781, Other#: 96 E 02. Not sure when last service was done on engine, so I'm changing out all the fluids and filters. The Allison MD3060's torque converter is locked up in "high" second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth gear, so the transmission is not a big heat factor, even on steep grades. I realise that they are conservatively rated, just like a B Cummins in a MDT compared to a Dodge. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Allison recommends that customers using TES 389 Approved Fluid consider Allisons newest fluid spec, TES 668, for their next service. All rights reserved. And your filters every 36 months? I need to tackle that project as well!!! This time I will only unscrew the drain plug and let it drain for a couple of days and then refill. Allison Transmission TES 468 Approved Fluids are approved for use in Allison H 40/50 EP on-highway products and may be used anywhere a TES 295 product is specified. Once the item is received it will be inspected to ensure it is in the same condition and quality as when it was sent out. Allison recommends TES 668 Approved Fluids to extend drain intervals and enhance transmission performance and durability in all operating environments. Fill Capacity:qt (L) * 2100/2200/2500 Series (standard sump) 15 (14) 2100/2200/2500 Series (shallow sump) 13 (12) I torqued the bolts to 40. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program, http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx, Privacy center (Do not sell or share my personal information), Other equipment requiring Allison TES-295 and TES-468 or MB-Approval 236.91 performance levels. This site uses different types of cookies. If you would like to discuss it further, you can contact me directly. If you crawl underneath, there should be a metal plate with model and serial number on the driver's side of the transmission. Fleece performance has some Ally controllers as does Howard's but good luck getting him to answer the phone. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program here. It offers outstanding gear shifting and power transfer performance. . Hi Brett. allison md-3060 md-3560 transmission parts & rebuild kits. Anybody ever anything to do with the Allison MD3060 6 speed tranny? . Use our locator tool to find out where to buy Mobil Delvac products in your area. Thanks for the input so far! Thanks Gary. TES 668 builds upon the proven 20-year record of TES 295 synthetic fluid by delivering the same great performance with a modern additive package. Keeps transmissions clean to extend life and performance even under some of the harshest driving conditions. endstream endobj 182 0 obj <>stream Outstanding film-strength and anti-wear properties. Do you have Allison Transmission parts or service related questions? MD3060 fluid recommend Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts. If anyone else can think of anything else, I appreciate it. Read our Mobil Delvac and Mobil Delvac 1 product-related frequently asked questions. How is a tranny that huge and from a MH only rated at 275hp?? In order of favorables: #1, MD3060 #2 . Really have a lot of hold back all the way down low. Our Website may also enable third-party tracking mechanisms to collect data over time and across unaffiliated websites for use in interest-based marketing. Exceptional thermal and oxidation stability. Further, it improves overall transmission durability and cleanliness. These cookies are used to determine which parts of our Website interest our visitors. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 982797. If you copy the serial number, you can go the the Allison website and get all the info on your transmission. Gary I do have a transmission dipstick and hadn't thought about using that. Huntsville, AL I have a MD3000MH transmission in my Horizon and drained it via drain plug and removed the filters to replace them. The Allison Owner's Manual (OM33459EN, copyright March 2000, page 40) that came with the MH, states a transmission fluid refill capacity of "3000 MH/MD 3060 2-inch sump as 10.5 quarts" Many motorhome manufacturers use the 4" sump which uses the 6" filters. We take your privacy rights seriously and we are dedicated to the protection of your personal data. PTO version is 32.49" long and weighs 575lbs. We Have You Covered Extended Transmission Coverage (ETC) Harness the Power of Genuine TES 668 Transmission Fluid Your Fleet of Information Allison HUB Premium Allison Genuine Reman Ready When You Are My Transmission and Fluid + Filter Calculator pages are now located on the HUB under SERVICE menu HUB Account Login Username Password Log in I tried it in the parking lot before I left, but adding the 2 qt of "cold" oil to the transmission cooled the fluid below the point where the auto level check will work, so I decided to drive back home which involves about a 3 mile uphill grade, knowing that would heat it up to the proper temp. Significant wear reduction and long transmission life. lubegard complete full synthetic atf automatic transmission fluid 3 quarts (69032) lubegard. However, if you drain the sump, additional fluid is required approaching 19 or so quarts, so the situation has been demystified. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Allison Technical Assistance Center (TAC) Fluid + Filter Information. The torque converter being programed to hold lock for use with an exhaust brake is a very nice feature on these transmissions. If you want that capacity in liters, then you are looking at 28 liters for the deeper pan and 25 for the shallower or regular pan. If you have any more questions please contact us. Re: Allison MD3060P Specs Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 11:52:13 AM Non PTO 3000 series is 28.29" long and weighs 535lbs. Surrey, BC V3T 2T1 By signing up for ExxonMobil Lubricants marketing communications using this form, you agree to accept the frequency of communications as deemed appropriate by our campaign manager. The parts are then organized and given a bin location so they are ready to be shipped as soon as possible. All website features may not be available based upon your cookie consent elections. Horsepower rating is up to 370hp and 1100lb/ft torque on the transmission. and 29 qts. The Allison that's the top dog (for a DT466)would be the MD3060. To purchase an Allison approved fluid, use the Sales + Service Locatorto find an Allison Authorized Distributor in your area. Thanks. My next plan is to take a highway run and then check for any leaks, and use the electronic indicator to tell me if it is OK. Why would the dipstick always register so high on the dipstick when it is cold? Glad that one is solved. So I'm askingis the 10.5 qt the correct value for the shallow (2") pan? When it is at operating temperature I always use the UP and DOWN arrows. Gary, Here is the end of the story! All of our parts are cleaned and inspected before shipping to ensure that they are in good condition. If you are unsure, call Allison with your transmission serial # and they can tell you. 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The cold check mark is only about 1 1/2 in from the end of the dipstick. Provides prompt and reliable lubrication at sub-zero ambient temperatures down to 54 C. Leads to viscosity retention even under the severest heavy duty, high temperature operating conditions. Go with synthetic trans fluid. Allison MD3060 fluid level iRV2.com Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts. 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway, Spring, TX 77389 So sometimes you would be changing your filters without changing the fluid, I guess? VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. and when I tried to pour it back in with a funnel and a clear plastic hose, it fills the tube fast and runs out the top! Mobil Delvac 1 ATF advanced technology has demonstrated extended drain, long-term friction retention, and low-temperature capability. The law states that we can store cookies on your device if they are strictly necessary for the operation of this site. Access from your Country was disabled by the administrator. ALLISON MD3060 TRANSMISSION 1996. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program here. Most of the Allison literature indicates the onboard system is far more accurate than the dipstick, but the dipstick would give an "estimate" of fluid content. The tranny is awfully large though you guys are right about that. Shifts quick, decent close gear ratios, converter locks up in 2-5 or 2-6, and single or double overdrive(5 or 6 spd). REPLACEMENT PARTS ARE IDENTICAL TO ORIGINAL PARTS ALLISON GENUINE PACKAGING CAN ONLY BE PURCHASED FROM ALLISON DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS See more product details Frequently bought together + + Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2, Does anyone know what fluid is recommended for this transmission and if we change the type of fluid do you need to change the filters as well, Don't Miss Paradise Oaks RV Resort In Florida, The Best Mail Services For Full-Time RVers, The 10 Best Spring Break Destinations For RVers, What You Should Know About RV Towing Insurance, 4 Embarrassing Things We Did As New RVers, Allison 3000 temp lower in 5th gear vs 6th, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1. The transmission went into neutral and the shift panel display for the Allison went blank. Nowhere in my 2005 Chevrolet 3500 owners manual does it give me (that I could find) the capacity for the Alison transmission coupled with the 6.6 turbo diesel. Gary. is rated (and warrantied) for. I figured that it would be "easy" for me to be 1-2 quarts low, so I emptied the remainder (2 qts) of a partial gallon into the transmission which now makes 12 quarts total, expecting the sensor now to indicate 2 quarts low. For some reason the dipstick always has transmission fluid about 6" above any mark, even though it is being checked when the fluid is cold. The customer will pay the shipping cost for the return of the item. Allison Transmission TES 389 Approved Fluids are approved for use in traditional on-highway products. Basking in Project paradise latest addition '83 dodge Crew Cab needing a Cummins have a 5 speed version of it. You are not interested in total transmission capacity. Well, the excitement is not over yet. 12905 King George Blvd Help on switching browsers can be found online. Return Address: The filter holds about 1.2 quarts, so where did the rest go? 21 . The time that the refund appears on your card is dependent on your card issuers policy. Replaced the filters, replaced 10 qts of fluid and it appeared that there was fluid on the dipstick so I decided to take her out for a test drive. endstream endobj 183 0 obj <>stream For some reason I thought that I would loose enough fluid when I changed the filters that it would be practically the same as a complete refill! Allison TES 668 Approved Fluids are recommended for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. I don't know if that even figures into this operation. There a few things to be aware of so I thought I'd share. Need your part faster or want to use your preferred courier? We have a 1997 Discovery motorhome with 5.9 Cummins and an Allison MD3060 six speed transmission on a Freightliner chassis. Input and retainers can be changed for different BM numbers or serial numbers as necessary. Anyone else have high fluid on their dipstick? I'll try that and give Freightliner a call also. Simply let our friendly salesperson know your preference when you place your order. We also share information about your use of our site with our social media, advertising and analytics partners who may combine it with other information that youve provided to them or that theyve collected from your use of their services. The amount refunded will be equal to the total amount of the purchase minus a 15% restocking fee and IMHO, a xmission that costs >15K, needs to be treated with caution. They also suggest fluid type, capacity, and filter #s. My Allison. The BestCounty Park CampgroundsFor RVe Where Can I Have Packages Delivered While On The R Plan Your RV Route & Find Campgrounds Like a P Don't Miss Carolina Pines RV Resort In South Carol Know How To Prevent A Space Heater Fire In Your RV. This helps us guarantee that there are no defects in any of the parts we send out. deduction of the original shipping cost. I don't know too much, but I read the torque on the filter bolts was 37-43 FT lbs? Allison Extended Transmission Warranty (ETC) Allison Service + Care. Location 21C2. The trans is currently behind a 5.9 cummins in a ford, but I am trying to figure out info on swapping to the dt466 I seem to remember a forum where there were some guys making internationals into 4x4's, anyone else know that forum?