The stock is cheesy feeling, but nicely shaped and rigid. Keep up the good work! I have played with many of the rifles you have. Well, I picked up a momentum elite in .308, and absolutely love it so far, still deciding on a scope to go on it, but cant wait to get to shooting it. Curious to hear your thoughts/experience with it. I might add for a hunting rifle the 6.5 Swede is superior to the 6.5 Screedmore. Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. keep on the good work and excuse my poor englis. It is still a preferred caliber in Scandinavia for big game. Though the tightest of those were from outlets that shoot 3-round groups, for what thats worth (well, its worth a tighter average group size). Any suggestions would be appreciated. Its typically priced around $950, but for $100 extra dollars over the $850 budget, you get an adjustable mini chassis. You are using an out of date browser. But the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell , quoteBut the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell quote. 7mm mag, 300 Win mag and 30-06. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Whats the pros and cons in your opinion? Thanks for the content you put out! Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. It is their lowest entry point to their rifles but looks interesting. Beater rifles go until they cant. I thought of the Waypoint myself but I also like the Sako Finnlight II. What do you think about the CZ 557 line and the new 600s? Im surprised it didnt make the list. As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. See also Gluck. I am looking at loading with heavier grain bullets such as the Berger 30 cal 215 Hybrid or Berger 7mm 180 or 195 Grain bullets. This gun is very accurate, has a great bump pad to absorb recoil (unlike most wood rifles) and has a threaded barrel for good measure. Bergara is intriguing, but I cant understand why its heavier. Great rifle. The CVA Cascade is an exceptional rifle for the price. High comb, rigid, modern stock lines. My initial impression is that it is a pretty standard budget bolt gun. I think many of us started on something like that, dads old rifle or grandpas. Anyway, love the Backfire channel. Hi, I really enjoy your reviews on YouTube. $1,049.00. Thank you and keep up the great job! Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. Thoughts? Watch my review here. I had a Waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC on order for a long while- when one finally showed up and I was able to handle it, I just could not warm up to it. I have the weather extreme in 25-05 that I purchased for a Pronghorn hunt topped with a Leupold VX6 HD. It's my 1st long-bolt (actually 2nd, I'd had Win 70 Ultimate Shadow 338 win mag. Thanks! He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. The stock is among the best I have ever used, its reasonably lightweight, excellent on accuracy, and the manufacturing quality is reliable. If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. Thanks. Trigger pull is most critical for me. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. Barrett, AI, etc. I have my moments of trigger snobbery, but if I owned a Momentum I wouldnt spend money seeking a trigger upgrade or smithing work. If you had a choice between XBolt Pro & Dako finnlight 85 in 300wm what one would you choose. Does that make sense from what I\ve mentioned? Ruger precision is really heavy for hunting, but a cool rifle. Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. With them being two different price points, Id be interested in your thoughts on spending the extra amount on the waypoint. It weighs a little heavy per the stats, Ill admit but at that price point, its very hard to ignore especially since lightweight after-market chassis can cost as much as the base model B-14, Rem 700, Tikka T3, etc. Im leaning on leaving my 300 Weatherby for a 300 win mag, and very interested in Seekins. I might just know about a new rifle coming in January 2023 that might change your mind, Awesome reviews Jim. Just a few examples of what is out there on the used market so why in the hell would anyone be dumb enough to buy modern made piece of garbage. Helping the Franchi Momentum turn in great groups well, helping the shooter do his or her part better is a wonderful factory trigger. So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. Delsin Rowe is the main protagonist and playable character, a young Native-American man who later realizes hes a Conduit with special powers. Jim, The only problem with a Springfield 2020 Waypoint is they dont offer it in enough chamberings. You mentioned the cheap filling stock. Nearly every touch-point Ive had with the company shows obvious signs of errors. We watch all your videos on YouTube. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned The stock feels like it is created of a very tough polymer. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. In this day and age, there is really no reason to not have a removable magazine that you could top load also. Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. Have you had any experience with the new fierce rage? I dont know if wood and metal rifles are extinct but it looks that way in Scheels. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. What is your opinion on Gunwerks? Keep up the good work of educating shooters in a neutral way. The 300 win mag barrel twist is a little slow, but if you arent going to handload, it should shoot up the 200 grain bullets in factory Ammo just fine. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. Very accurate, handles recoil well, and easily in your price point with room to spare. I own a Fury in 6.5 Creedmoor that will shoot the smallest 5 shot group you ever seen. And dollar for dollar you could never purchase a rifle that guarantees you 1 moa back several years ago for the same relative cost. New for 2021: Franchi Momentum Elite Rifle - YouTube 0:00 / 1:38 New for 2021: Franchi Momentum Elite Rifle NRApubs 129K subscribers Subscribe 148 24K views 1 year ago American Hunter Executive. Have you fired the Sako 85 Finnlight? Sign of the times, Im sure you know what Im talking about. Boy, so many good 7 mags. I like the straight comb with minimal drop and I found the cheek weld comfortable. Like you I love the idea of the cerakote on it and I think a stiffer stock lends itself to shooters well. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). 2) the 6.5 prc vs the 7 prc ( i have 2 338 win mags i am planning on keeping for elk +), My thoughts? Cheers. Its way more fun to shoot than the other guns. American Hunter's first reports of it indicated excellent fit and function and accuracy. What about the Winchester Model 70? Sorry youtube is being such a pain in the ass to you as well. So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? If you want an accurate rifle with a threaded barrel and a decent trigger, it doesnt seem like you can go wrong with this one for under $500. Italian? Never spent over $500 before. Both good guns, I would worry about Franchi suddenly stopping production of this rifle and parts availability going to zero. The deciding factor for me was the trigger, and that 3 of my buddies shoot the Savage. I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc Looking at a Seekins Havak in 300 PRC. My personal Ruger American shoots 0.8 groups consistently. I am looking for a semi-auto gun for hunting, been looking at the Savage MSR 10 in 6.5 CM and the Smith and Wesson M&P 10 in 6.5 CM (I would really love to see an AR10 in 6.5 PRC). Bergara seems to have just come out with a Walnut stock maybe as a result of one of you comparing their stocks to garage floors??? Best known for making value-priced shotguns, Franchi may well have taken a leap of faith by entering the highly competitive centrefire market. Ive fallen in love. It is very expensive. I havent heard you talk much about the Seekins rifles, any thoughts on them? Leave the modern made junk guns to the young and inexperienced people which results in the good stuff out there being more plentiful for us old foxes that know what a quality gun is and what a reliable one is. Available in six calibers, TTAG gave the $609 MSRP .308 Winchester flavor a test drive. You must log in or register to reply here. Specifically, I am looking at 300 PRC and .28 Nolser, or 300 Weatherby Magnum. Cannot find the Federal rounds anymore so Shooting the Hornady Precision Hunter 110s now. If a person is willing to invest the money; would you recommend the reaper above all else for a do it all hunting rifle? I think I will try to pick one up next week, in either a .308 or .300. I havent tried the Rage yet, but I have used that same action and stock in different configurations. At present time i run Sakos and Blaser. . Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. Im really interested in the Benelli Lupo, any chance your going to get your hands on one of those? The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). Suppressors are DEFINITELY the future, so I wouldnt buy a non-threaded barrel anymore. I would not even try and shoot a moose with the Creedmore but its no problem with the 6.5 Swede with its 1 in 7.8 twist with the 160 grain slugs. Most people hide their plasticky pieces of shit from their friends if their friends are the old foxes who know what a real gun is. They will be on sale at cabelas this next week, and I havent heard that much about them. Is the quality that good? They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles That said, the polymer quality and stiffness are better than many. Problem is , Im not sure it is practical to spend so much on a custom for some folks. To be clear, youll load the rifle from the top, pushing one round at a time down and into the internal magazine, and this function allows you to safely and easily unload the Momentum. Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. Action is very heavy and clunky. And outside chance of a Bergara HMR or sauer 100 Pantera. HOWEVER, since recording that review Ive also had the opportunity to hunt a good bit. ITs one of hte most versatile calibers since you can load down to 125 gr bullets and turn it into a .243 in recoil to train kids with a light load. It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. Thank you! Do you have a suggestion for a backcountry hunting rifle that does well with heavy recoil? With a century and a half of firearms manufacturing behind it, Italy's Franchi has unveiled its first-ever centrefire hunting rifle, the Momentum. Its great out to about 400. The Elite Varmint, introduced last year, should readily . I would love a 300 Win Mag. Best 5 shot group was .320 so I wouldnt knock the compass for a budget rifle. Love you work and your research is unparalleled. Hi Jim, PS. Italians know firearms and so do the Finns. There was getting to the point where I found I needed better but thats not how the first few years took off. Travis Skurray from Australia. I really don\\\t need an other gun, but what is the best 7mm Mag you suggest? Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? It shoots some factory ammo sub moa as advertised but has been and uphill battle to get hand loaded 88grn eldm's to group consistent. If a close friend asked me what hunting rifle to buy at each price point, these would be my recommendations: If you dont want to read this entire post, jump to the section for rifles in your budget. The data-driven nature of the content is extremely helpful. Thanks for such a speedy response. The Weatherby Vanguard comes in several different editions. Overall, if you forced me to pick a winner in this category, Id probably give it to the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Now they are North of $400. Both have NO bolt lock when on safety. I dont see the stock being much different really. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. this are what i like long range in a good rifle, with hornady ammo. I have found the majority of shooters have a herd mentality and always believe that the latest is the greatest. I use Swaro and Zeiss optics and i use moderators on all of mine. To my surprise John Mogle responded and told me to send in my gun and they would replace the barrel and fix the problem. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. Any tips on bullet weight and powder brand? Some people get a good one, others get a lemon. Base Price: $816.99: Tax: - In Stock: Back in stock . excellent trigger. I found not too long ago a Husqvarna Mauser for $400 bucks in like new condition. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Performance is really good. There is a nice Bavarian Sako but theres isnt much data on accuracy on the range with a scope. Weatherby Mark V Weatherby makes a fantastic rifle. The scope hasnt moved for years now and I have shot it quite a bit. Great comment, Frank. More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. Wish you wouldve done a review on Mauser 18 or sauer 100 as I became interested in those two guns and did ultimately pick up a Mauser this year based on some other reviews. The Cross is great for 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC, but the stock just isnt suitable for heavy recoiling cartridges. These are deal breakers. I recently purchased the Momentum Elite in the 6.5 creedmoor and respectfully think an honourable mention for the under $1000 would be appropriate. I purchased Savage Axis II XP- 6.5 Creedmore from Cabelas. I think a majority of Americans know the old saying you just took a paragraph to explain. I am going to use the rifle for mainly whitetail deer hunting in Wisconsin but I occasionally like once every 5-10 years go out west and hunt pronghorn or elk and have recently tried to hunt moose in Alaska. A shiny one. The reason I am more interested in an AR instead of a bolt action is because: I would like to have an adjustable stock for hunting in multi layers of clothing and backpack straps, the need to adjust my length of pull is important. Torn between CVA cascade or bergara b14 ridge in 7mm-08. Dumb! In this price range, this rifle appears to be a very good value. From afar it looks pretty standard, but it does set itself apart in a few ways. I recently purchased a Franchi Momentum 300 win mag w/24 in. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category.