2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. I think you wish you hit it further. What is the speed? I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. Thanks for posting. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. Display as a link instead, [quote name='J.W.' [quote name='eddie_max' timestamp='1364438260' post='6711367'] RJ, What was the actual value of swing speed group 115 mph+, since it shows 0%. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. [quote name='xmanhockey7' timestamp='1364353356' post='6703825'] By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. Knowing what club to hit based on distance and the safest place to aim based on dispersion tendencies will undoubtedly benefit the golfer. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! [/quote] Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. And that was 12 years ago. any 7 iron data ? Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? Golf critics talk about technology making golf courses obsolete because of distance, but what they fail to clarify is that this only pertains to 0.1% of the golfing population. Distance to Apex 195.9 Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. The one at 3811 spin carried 8.3 yards further. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. My longest drive was 270. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. Jon Rahm - TrackMan Numbers - TrackMan Golf In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. The 22 years old Jon Rahm, is one of the new upcoming stars on the European and PGA Tour. Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. I appreciate your thoughts, great article. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. These high-level numbers of course dont always tell the whole story as the pros like us are faced with an infinite variety of golf shots which dont always mean they are hitting each club as far as they possibly can for every shot. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. [quote name='swanry30' timestamp='1364407652' post='6707945'] With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. This gap is the highest one Titleist advise in custom fitting, they like to see only 4 degrees between clubs which unfortunately means you are buying 3 wedges and paying an additional 169. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. It is not to suggest that a golfer should simply play a shorter course to shoot better scores, but that a golfer should play a course length that is appropriate. Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. Did your coach share the TrackMan report with you on mytrackman.com ? It is all about the short game If it's a longer hole, I'll play the driver. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. I feel like a lot of AMs sacrifice strike for the extra 1-2 mph which ultimately leads to less distance. More photos from the event here. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. #TeamTrackMan To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. Open navigation menu. TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. You can post now and register later. Different pros however clearly hit their irons different distances but in the table below we have listed the stock yardages of some of the top pros, including Rory McIlroy, Dustin Johnson, Justin Thomas and Bryson DeChambeau, to let you see how they compare against the average. The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. RocketBladez Tour 4-PW // C-Taper Justin is that really you?? I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. Just would be interesting to see. I know I hit the ball a long way though. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi It's good for some laughs. TrackMan Ever found a yardage you like? Looking at how far pros hit their irons is a much easier task these days due to all the tracking technology that exists however it still does not make it an exact science. Upload or insert images from URL. Hcap 5 will be around 68. What about the balls we use. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 95 X Hybrid, Irons: Titleist T100 (3-9) Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. Someone will probably come in and explain what he should do to improve those numbers.. Callaway Paradyme Tensei 1K 70 It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. me too! If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. They hit 52 gap wedges a stock carry distance of between 126 and 135 yards and carry 56 sand wedges an average distance of 119 to 124 yards. [/quote] A good drive might only yield 250 and that isnt exciting. I'll pass. The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. Grip: SuperStroke, Driver: Titleist 917 D3 (10.5 degrees @12) Total Distance Efficiency 2.484. 2 were over 320. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. the TrackMan numbers below. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. Trackman Data on PGA Tour Averages Hit It Longer In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. Thanks! I prefer 120-160 yards, so I try my best to play to that yardage on par 4's. And it just isnt true.well at least not on average. I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. 398 were here. Club head speed is around 90 MPH giving me a distance of 214 yrds. Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. These 23 heads are available in three finishes: Jet Black, Tour Chrome and Brushed Steel. I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. Im your AMA although Im trending down. endobj [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Justin Thomas' Distances - Tour Talk - GolfWRX link to What Irons Do the Pros Use? But he does not average those. Thanks. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. It's good for some laughs. It's good for some laughs. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. In truth, the vast majority of golfers are playing from tees that are too long based on their club speed and skill level. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. The Justin Thomas Foundation positively impacts children in need, junior golf, and military families with the intent of helping all achieve their full potential. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. [/quote] 100% of all funds raised with be used to make a constructive and quality impact for a deserving child, family or charity. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do.