We went through hell together, we loved each other, we saved each other, we saved others together, we could practically feel and read one another. I mean, for the 2 people IN the relationship it will be a very impactful connection, but even other people will take notice of this pairing. Please enlighten me.. Usually, when the 12th house is heavily involved, whether it be a natal chart, a comparison, or a composite, the message is to let go. I was wondering about my composite contacts with some I know who we share 12th house themes with. Thank You for Your answer and best regards from Hungary! Emotional Suppression. My mars falls in his 12th and his moon falls in my 12th.
12th house synastry - from planet person perspective - Lindaland We fall, and find the world. Reply. We have an interesting stellium in the 6th Uranus, Eros, Ceres, and Vertex all within a degree of each other. I cant make a decision of whether to stay or leave without more clarity it feels like we arent done learning what we need to learn together, but staying together in this state where she doesnt desire me is agony. I apologize for the mistakes, Im French and sometimes it is difficult to express in English . hello, nice article Dawn. Wow very insightful thank you so much, I love your writing!! It feels that we are very free together than alone. I dont want to lose this relationship too so I would like to help me to find out the karmic lesson. (One expression does not contra-indicate the other.). Lovely article. I have composite sun and moon in house 12 with my brother. For him, its TOO many of his own issues. . We also have Sun conjunct Saturn, Saturn trine Moon double whammy, Sun conjunct North Node double whammy, his venus conjunct my ascendant, My Mercury conjunct his ascendant, our moons conjunct in aries, Sun opposite Sun, Mercury opposite Mercury, and Venus opposite Venus, all within 3 degrees. ? I would like to help you, but you would need a full analysis of the charts to know what is going on with this 12th house energy. Thank you, Tricia. My nn is conjunct his sun and mercury. Judy, Im sorry about your relationship with your daughter. Pluto is elevated in the composite chart close to the midheaven in the 9th. Hi Daw I am so sad because I would have never meet him IF my husband and this man, and his wife would not become friends with him in church, ( I did not go to church for a while so I would not meet them!) Now we hate each other and nothing made sense. Definitely karmic and unbreakable. It's time for the wave to return to the ocean. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. In our composite chart, Mars in 12th house Cancer square MC conjunct Mercury(10th) and the Sun, Venus(9th) & Mars square IC conjunct Saturn and Pluto(3rd). Having someone else's planets in these houses (especially the 5 th, 7 th, and 8 th houses), conjunct the Vertex or not, indicate a high level of compatibility and intimacy. IP: Logged. Any insights you may have would be greatly appreciated! It is ruled by Pluto and Mars, rulers of Scorpio. As the article says : this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. I feel so relieved after reading it because I really thought i was crazy. I will always be exactly where I am now loving you. Thank you in advance. I was immediately flooded with emotion- I realized all at once how intensely close to him I was and needed to know if he was ok, etc. They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. The composite chart with the man Im involved with has an extremely tight Moon/Mars conjunction in the 12th, along with the North Node. Juno is also important. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. We need strong, healthy egos to accomplish what weve come to do in this life, but we need to act according to what is wanted of us, not against it. And what does it mean our 12th. Im not exactly sure what our future holds, but I do know we are exactly where we are supposed to be XOXO ~ Thank you for the lovely insights!!! We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). 12th house issues are not always supportive. Thank you for such an eloquent understanding, this has helped me. I like my husband as well after 20 years of marriage but I feel like I fell in this tragic love triangle story without asking for it! We challenge each other to be the best versions of ourselves. There is a certain someone whose natal Sun is in the 12 th, his sun also receiving a natal square from his Neptune. Please your opinion. Oh wow, Im glad to be reading this after the fact. MUCH APPRICIATED- i am forever greatful for your insights. IF THIS IS NOT A TRAGIC LOVE STORY THAN WHAT IS? He also has 12th house stellium in his own natal chart in Scorpio. We were happy plutonicay together. Is this why I am feeling this more? I have 12th house with my partner, but also many Saturn and Pluto Aspects. The same person I've had mutual 12th house synastry with has sun in 12th house composite with me. A Venus in the 12th House man is a sweet, gentle, kind of person who likes to help both people and animals. The only way that you can figure out the main issue of karma in a relationship is to examine the nature of both Nodes and their rulers in the Composite, along with aspects to the Nodes. I do all these within a synastry consulation. You may keep your feelings for each other to yourselves, not feeling safe expressing them for whatever reason. Transit Uranus in the Composite 12th House. mars is trine composite sun, pluto, uranus jupiter and neptune- but square moon saturn. Astro-Seek.com Seek and meet people born on the same date as you . Is Your experience the same? Transit Venus in the Composite 12th House. What you said about compo Sun/Neptune is very interesting Please I would like to know Dawn,according to you it is important to notice what this compo Sun/Neptune conjuncts in each individual charts, to determine more precisely how each person is going to feed this confusing Sun /Neptune by his/her personal points .? Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. Dear Dawn, thank you for this amazing article. I read our full synastry report, using dual cosmodynes, and the outcome was very positive and harmonic, scoring pretty much above the average! Thank you for this series of articles! Since your Part of Fortune is in the 12th house of your birth chart, the sixth house is the opposite house. i dont know, looking at this chart, it has completely different emphasis, from my regular composite. After our individual identity is explored through all the houses, in the 12th and final house, the personality dissolves into something larger. Click on "Chart Type" >>. The Mars/Neptune square did bring an element of slipperiness, but mostly irritating fibbing on his part. Our Composite Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter are in the 12th, Gemini. taurus venus-mars conjunction in Your opinion? we have stellium-sun, venus, mercury in 12th house-composit chart(aries), mars in 11th house, moon in 6th, uran retrograde and pluto retrograte in 5th, jupiter retrograde and neptun retrograde in 7th house, south node conjuct regulus in 4th hause, vertex conjuct DC, saturn in 1th house. And you may then limit yourself for years, into oblivion.
The Top 5 Past Life Marriage Indicators In the Birth Chart: Karmic What if the composite chart has two strong stelliums: one is made up of the outer planets in the 12th, the other Sun/Mercy/Venus/Juno in the 10th (and moon and mars are in the 8th). so we find the True in each other. I just am hesitating. We have a composite Pisces Ascendant (3) with a Pisces Saturn in 12 conjunct Ascendant. You explain the ineffable. I was heart broken all over again. Beautiful article!! Happy holidays and thank you for this article. We have the ultimate intimacy side by side with the knowledge of ultimate separateness. what can we do here? In the second house of values, beware . We all find our gods where we can and must. Juno in the 12th means that there are unresolved issues surrounding equality in relationship and some sort of sacrifice in relationships will be necessary in order to discover that balance. This is a complicated question and needs a subtle analysis in the chart, but on the whole, planets in the first house side of the angle center around the development of a healthy sense of Self, of ego, whereas planets on the 12th house side of the angle will be dealing with karma surrounding ego choices, and the planets will take on a more archetypal energy and effect. An ex-lover and I share composite Sun/Mercury in the 12th. We dont really grasp whats in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planets function. When transit Saturn is in the composite 12th house, you may feel that old issues or subconscious issues in the relationship become more of a problem, and need to be worked on, understood, and moved on from. Our ascendant is also pisces but our Uranus-Venus opposite position makes lots of deals in our relationship besides the 12th and 6th house. Then you have to put the natal charts around the composite, and there are a number of other techiques depending on what questions are asked: coalescent charts, draconic charts, etc. And would that mean -lets say- if this persons partners personal planets conjuncts to his north node would he lose the partner or would he lose god because he put that person (her planets) between himself and god! Composite Pluto in the 9th house: There is an added layer of complexity to their combined life philosophy. They might be very sneaky and test people a lot. I can honestly say that I love this man from the highest level of my being, but I dont feel we belong together in a committed relationship. Composite, Davison Chart . I fell onto another man after that whom I had a very deep dark sexual connection to and whom I shared a heavy 8th composite chart with. Dear Dawn, I just see now, that accidentally I typed wrong Your name! I put mars (Cancer) in his 12th. How ironic! We get along very well but our relationship is being kept in secret (which sucks) and the Saturn and Pluto opposite Asc.
Pemo Theodore - Unravelling the Mysteries of Love through the Composite It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. I have learned to surrender much but our relationship isnt surviving, we cant let go altogether and cant seem to be together. It isnt bad, its difficult. This year in April we were introduced to each other by our mates. Im sure a lot of my readers have been there and sympathize with you completely. Together, they like to dive deeper and deeper into unknown and mysterious beliefs, cultures, territories, and ideas. My 12 is in Leo, along with my Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto. So my final question is which method should I look onto (composite or synastry) as they both seem to go into totally different directionsand is it possible to reveal our secret relationship even with composite 12th house? I am a strong 12th house person- the sun in Libra conjunct Pluto/Mercury in Scorpio, with Saturn in Scorpio widely conjunct my Scorpio ascendent (I told you I was intense) and he has no planets in the 12th. The composite chart only reveals so muchcomparing natal charts tells us about the day to day of the people involved, their reactions to one another, their attractions, etc. This is my take on signs that have two rulersthere is a higher expression and a lower expression of the signs energy. I have a 12th house Capricorn stellium and my husband and I also have a composite 12th house Capricorn stellium. Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this.
Composite Chart | PlutonicDesire - PlutonicDesire | Stuctured Astology We are each in our mid 60she never married, and I (a widow) married 25 yearsto a Pisces. . However, what happens when we join together as a couple/entity is reflected in the composite chart. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. These individuals are highly empathetic, but they want to protect their privacy, and they are not easy to open up. In our synastry my North Node/South Node axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis and his Moon conjuncts my IC. For instance I have a Composite Taurus Sun at 1-2 degrees in the 12th Conjunct Taurus Eros (also in the 12th at 4 degrees), and the Taurus Asc at 5 degrees. So much uncertainty and confusion!! She becomes the energy that stands in our way even as she offers dark gifts. or is it irrelevant ? My sun in the 3rd is squeezed in a T-square between Saturn in Pisces, in the 6th and Pluto/Uranus in Virgo, in the 12th. He didnt want to commit/marry. I am a strong 12th houser myself and it meant so much to me that we could live together and I never felt my precious solitude was infringed upon. The Composite Sun Through the Houses. I had a karmic relationship with a guy for 6 years which ended badly. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. VERY-VERY SORRY! If the fears arent dealt with (and the fears include loss of all kinds), it can get projected and the world itself can become the enemy. Its also trine to the moon and sextiling Uranus. Lilith in the 12th House is an unusual placement because it revolves around the dark side of your life and its unseen parts. But I do have one question?
Nessus Astrology - A 2023 Complete Guide To Nessus Asteroid This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. Neptune is also in the 12th, but hanging back a bit and squaring Neptune- yikes. Bright blessings to you. Well it is a living hell right now! And what does it mean our 12th. We are happy when were together but he took a job 2 hours away and moved into our country house which I have now come to hate. November 9, 2012 astrologyanonymous27. WhiteLotus. The twelfth house is about vocation, our divine calling, and is a very different energy from the status-oriented tenth. We both feel we have been together over many lifetimes. Just endings in general. Its a bit like getting knocked off your feet by a powerful waveyou and your partner are going to have to swim in the tide for a while, and deal with whatever watery beasties swim your way. My daughter and I have a 12th house Sun-Moon conjunction (in Cancer) in our composite. Something is whispering in their ears. Thank You so much for Your answer! We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. Im a Pisces sun 7house. Thank you for reading and I hope this story helps reveal more about the 12th house in composites. Neptune tries to tell us that we cant own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. But it was very devastating experience getting physical, it really failed the first time and we didnt try it again. The lesson they teach is that we do not have to possess love in order to experience it. Wow, everything in this article is so accurate + written so beautifully. The lower expression has to be elevated, and the higher expression needs to be realized. Our strongest aspect is Saturn Trine Moon. Dear Dawn, Aspects to composite planets will fill in the details. Thanks so much Dawn. Composite Sun in 1 st House. 12th House Meaning. .why is neptune conjunct sun so bad in composite? and Ceres in Pisces in his 12th and all conjunct his lilith. He is my best friend but marriage to him has been so disappointing because theres not much difference between now and when I was single. These are just a few of the synastry aspects. oh gosh do not i know this! The diurnal chart's house cusps will also conjunct progressed and directed planets throughout the year and can mark significant days. This depends on how well Lilith energy is being handled in the synastry and natal chart. The fatedness of it all doesnt make sense at times, like union of the subconscious. On the one hand We are meant to be on the other, But if we are, why is it so hard?, When a couple has planets, or an important planet, in the 12th, it can go a couple of ways. They usually experience issues with drugs or alcohol. 13 . I just met someone who has their moon in 12th house like myself and im wondering if i need to investigate this more closely. and he JUST asked me to lunch yesterday. I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). The Moon/Mars (Virgo) sextiles a close Sun/Jupiter (Cancer) conjunction in the 10th, sextiles Uranus (Scorpio) in the 2nd, trines Ceres (Capricorn) in the 4th, and squares Neptune (Sagittarius) in the 3rd all very close aspects. In our synastry chart, we also have exact Chiron/Venus opposition. You cant really know how an aspect is going to manifest without looking at the whole chart, but it is true that conjunctions from the 12th house side are very complex. The composite chart has Sun/Jupiter conjunct by degree in the 12th in Scorpio, moon in the 12th in late Libra, and Scorpio rising. It confuses us, as is appropriate with a house that Neptune rules.
Lilith in Partner's House | Synastry House Overlays - Stars and Tarot I have 3 planets in my natal chart in 12th house (mercury,sun,mars) and we have 2 planets,which are identical in my natal(mercury and sun), in the composite chart in 12th house with someone who i talked for 6 months but we never dated.We also have our moon in pisces in 6th house. This is okay, as long as we learn from those mistakes and adjust our steps. AT ALL. My life seems to cycle in and out of being able to bring that 12 house/Neptune energy into the everyday world.
Lilith in 12th House, Black Moon Lilith In Twelfth House, Lilith in I need help! And this is where we must reach out beyond our small lives to touch the greater life that is possible. No one could share that kind of information with a person that he/she newly know. In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together. Couples where the 12th is strong can often experiencewell, lets say itNeptunian weirdness. That 12th house/Neptune influence is devasting if left unchecked. taurus venus-mars conjunction in Your opinion? Lots of greetings from Serbia. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. I turned to astrology and within months I learnt a lot of things about this topic. And it KILLS ME! Just as the Sun is the Luminary of the day, the Moon is the Luminary of the night. Keteki says: May 7, 2012 at 4:21 pm .
The Composite Chart and the 12th House: The Ghost at the Door However, Sag and Cap are very, very different from one another and the things that make you feel secure, comforted and appreciated will be very different, unless other things in the chart back them up. I feel sad about that. He just wanted to keep it physical until one of us gets married with someone else. I really feel like there is a wolf howling in a forest at night and I hear his call , I know I am the female wolf and that the call is for me and I have to go to him now. I met with a guy 2 months ago and when we saw each other, -there is no doubt that- we were both fascinated by each other. When Saturn is conjunct the North Node it can be particularly ruthless in pursuing its goals.